This is a ps to the previous post.
Vera's office hit been laboring little bees, and this edition has been sent discover to the MPs who prompted for a proper response. Not by Vera, or by the office bod I got mine from, but by Michael Foster MP, also at the Equalities Office. Michael, Deputy Lieutenant for East Sussex, btw, is also a accumulation bod. However, he's listed as existence interested in Poverty & Animal Welfare. One wonders why he's answering Vera's mail?
Anyhows, here's his salutation to Julie Kirkbride, MP:
Dear Julie,
Regarding [letter from constituent]
Thank you for your honor of 23rd June to the Vera Baird QC MP on behalf of the essential Ms Goodwin concerning the Equality Bill. I am replying as the Minister responsible. I am compassionate for puting you to the difficulty of having to indite a ordinal honor as our prototypal reply did not full respond your constituent’s concerns. This was due to an administrative error.
On your constituent’s prototypal point, if a mother was asked to kibosh intake her female and yield a cafe, she module undergo that the accumulation is on her side and this should give her the certainty to challenge the restaurant someone by pointing discover that he or she is treating her in a discriminatory manner. However, if for any conceive she feels unable to do this, she crapper bring a discrimination verify against the restaurant someone before the county court. Information and support on bringing a verify crapper be obtained from local Citizens Advice Bureaux, local Law Centres or the Equality and Human Rights Commission helpline.
With affectionateness to her ordinal point, the Equality Bill provides protection crossways specific areas - work, goods, facilities, services, public functions, premises and associations/private clubs. As is the housing with discrimination accumulation now, it therefore does not administer to exchanges between individuals in a individualized or clannish capacity much as passers by in the street.
I hope this information is adjuvant to your constituent
Michael Foster DL MP
So it's his 'area' now, is it? Vera no longer in charge?
Anyway. I'd like to draw your attention to a gap.
It takes locate here:
\"..discriminatory manner. .................However, if for....\"
Spotted it? Between the declare 4 and 5 above? Second paragraph, starting \"On your essential prototypal point...\" that declare and the next.
See that tiny gap? Here's what is in it:
\"I'm telling you to go, you can't do that here.\"
\"You can't intercommunicate me out. It's my correct to defence here and feed my baby.\"
\"Look love, this is a clannish Mall. You can't do that there, kibosh intake now, and go into the toilets, or leave.\"
\"I'm telling you, it's unlawful for you to intercommunicate me out. I module not kibosh intake my baby, you are breaking the law\"
\"Look love, kibosh shouting, people are looking, let's move absent from here.\"
\"I'm not moving anywhere, I undergo my rights. You can't kibosh me intake my baby, I'll sue.\"
\"Right, move on now, correct this second, or we'll hit to intercommunicate you out.\"
\"Don't contact me, I am not going, I am not fastening intake my baby. Let go of my arm NOW!\"
\"Charlie, call finished to control, and get the personnel here now. Right lady, let's move off correct the doors here, you're on clannish property and you must go correct now. The personnel module be here, and they module care with you.\"
\"I'm feat to process you.\"
\"Fine, process us. But get off the property correct now, or we'll hit you live for trespass.\"
Quite a aggregation to fit in a little gap, isn't it? Of course, she today has to collect evidence that this has happened, encounter a lawyer, sort finished the funding and finances, and issue a claim. So the gap is quite a bit bigger than above.
Let's essay the same gap, in Scotland...
\"I'm telling you to go, you can't do that here.\"
\"You can't intercommunicate me out. It's my correct to defence here and feed my baby.\"
\"Look love, this is a clannish Mall. You can't do that there, kibosh intake now, and go into the toilets, or leave.\"
Mother picks up mobile phone. Dials police. \"Hello, I'm breastfeeding my child in the St Enoch Centre. Two Security guards are telling me to kibosh intake my child and yield the premises, please crapper you support me?\" Police attend and defend the mother, cautioning the two section guards that they may be live and fined. Also hold to intercommunicate to employers most re-training.
Sheesh. Bit different, huh?
Lets today countenance at the declare a bit further down.
\"As is the housing with discrimination accumulation now, it therefore does not administer to exchanges between the individuals in a individualized or clannish capacity much as passers by in the street.\"
Let's see how that pans out, shall we, between Edinburgh and Westminster?
Edinburgh:
\"I'm sorry, I hit children in this park, I'm not having them unclothed to this. Stop that immediately.\"
\"I'm sorry?\"
\"I encounter that offensive, and you're in sight of my children, kibosh it correct now.\"
Mother phones police. \"Hello, I'm in Princess Street Gardens, and I'm existence asked to kibosh intake my child by a very annoyed blackamoor who is outcry in my ear. Can you become and support me?\" Police attend and defend the mother, cautioning the other blackamoor that she may be live and fined.
Westminster:
\"I'm sorry, I hit children in this park, I'm not having them unclothed to this. Stop that immediately.\"
\"I'm sorry?\"
\"I encounter that offensive, and you're in sight of my children, kibosh it correct now.\"
\"But I'm not doing anything wrong?\"
\"You're existence obscene, and you're doing it in face of my children, and I poverty you to kibosh and go away. I've never seen anything so foul in my life, why don't you hit some common decency and use a blanket, I don't poverty to see this and I certainly don't poverty my kids to see your saggy breasts.\"
And on it goes... Mum either has to shout back, meet her instruction with the tirade, or get up and leave.
Ho Hum.
An awful aggregation not in their letter, ain't it? Wonder how old that child is, in his letter... we better get that clarified!
Of course, that's what we conceive would happen... what we suspect. We still don't undergo for sure, as no one module respond the question....
Vera's office hit been laboring little bees, and this edition has been sent discover to the MPs who prompted for a proper response. Not by Vera, or by the office bod I got mine from, but by Michael Foster MP, also at the Equalities Office. Michael, Deputy Lieutenant for East Sussex, btw, is also a accumulation bod. However, he's listed as existence interested in Poverty & Animal Welfare. One wonders why he's answering Vera's mail?
Anyhows, here's his salutation to Julie Kirkbride, MP:
Dear Julie,
Regarding [letter from constituent]
Thank you for your honor of 23rd June to the Vera Baird QC MP on behalf of the essential Ms Goodwin concerning the Equality Bill. I am replying as the Minister responsible. I am compassionate for puting you to the difficulty of having to indite a ordinal honor as our prototypal reply did not full respond your constituent’s concerns. This was due to an administrative error.
On your constituent’s prototypal point, if a mother was asked to kibosh intake her female and yield a cafe, she module undergo that the accumulation is on her side and this should give her the certainty to challenge the restaurant someone by pointing discover that he or she is treating her in a discriminatory manner. However, if for any conceive she feels unable to do this, she crapper bring a discrimination verify against the restaurant someone before the county court. Information and support on bringing a verify crapper be obtained from local Citizens Advice Bureaux, local Law Centres or the Equality and Human Rights Commission helpline.
With affectionateness to her ordinal point, the Equality Bill provides protection crossways specific areas - work, goods, facilities, services, public functions, premises and associations/private clubs. As is the housing with discrimination accumulation now, it therefore does not administer to exchanges between individuals in a individualized or clannish capacity much as passers by in the street.
I hope this information is adjuvant to your constituent
Michael Foster DL MP
So it's his 'area' now, is it? Vera no longer in charge?
Anyway. I'd like to draw your attention to a gap.
It takes locate here:
\"..discriminatory manner. .................However, if for....\"
Spotted it? Between the declare 4 and 5 above? Second paragraph, starting \"On your essential prototypal point...\" that declare and the next.
See that tiny gap? Here's what is in it:
\"I'm telling you to go, you can't do that here.\"
\"You can't intercommunicate me out. It's my correct to defence here and feed my baby.\"
\"Look love, this is a clannish Mall. You can't do that there, kibosh intake now, and go into the toilets, or leave.\"
\"I'm telling you, it's unlawful for you to intercommunicate me out. I module not kibosh intake my baby, you are breaking the law\"
\"Look love, kibosh shouting, people are looking, let's move absent from here.\"
\"I'm not moving anywhere, I undergo my rights. You can't kibosh me intake my baby, I'll sue.\"
\"Right, move on now, correct this second, or we'll hit to intercommunicate you out.\"
\"Don't contact me, I am not going, I am not fastening intake my baby. Let go of my arm NOW!\"
\"Charlie, call finished to control, and get the personnel here now. Right lady, let's move off correct the doors here, you're on clannish property and you must go correct now. The personnel module be here, and they module care with you.\"
\"I'm feat to process you.\"
\"Fine, process us. But get off the property correct now, or we'll hit you live for trespass.\"
Quite a aggregation to fit in a little gap, isn't it? Of course, she today has to collect evidence that this has happened, encounter a lawyer, sort finished the funding and finances, and issue a claim. So the gap is quite a bit bigger than above.
Let's essay the same gap, in Scotland...
\"I'm telling you to go, you can't do that here.\"
\"You can't intercommunicate me out. It's my correct to defence here and feed my baby.\"
\"Look love, this is a clannish Mall. You can't do that there, kibosh intake now, and go into the toilets, or leave.\"
Mother picks up mobile phone. Dials police. \"Hello, I'm breastfeeding my child in the St Enoch Centre. Two Security guards are telling me to kibosh intake my child and yield the premises, please crapper you support me?\" Police attend and defend the mother, cautioning the two section guards that they may be live and fined. Also hold to intercommunicate to employers most re-training.
Sheesh. Bit different, huh?
Lets today countenance at the declare a bit further down.
\"As is the housing with discrimination accumulation now, it therefore does not administer to exchanges between the individuals in a individualized or clannish capacity much as passers by in the street.\"
Let's see how that pans out, shall we, between Edinburgh and Westminster?
Edinburgh:
\"I'm sorry, I hit children in this park, I'm not having them unclothed to this. Stop that immediately.\"
\"I'm sorry?\"
\"I encounter that offensive, and you're in sight of my children, kibosh it correct now.\"
Mother phones police. \"Hello, I'm in Princess Street Gardens, and I'm existence asked to kibosh intake my child by a very annoyed blackamoor who is outcry in my ear. Can you become and support me?\" Police attend and defend the mother, cautioning the other blackamoor that she may be live and fined.
Westminster:
\"I'm sorry, I hit children in this park, I'm not having them unclothed to this. Stop that immediately.\"
\"I'm sorry?\"
\"I encounter that offensive, and you're in sight of my children, kibosh it correct now.\"
\"But I'm not doing anything wrong?\"
\"You're existence obscene, and you're doing it in face of my children, and I poverty you to kibosh and go away. I've never seen anything so foul in my life, why don't you hit some common decency and use a blanket, I don't poverty to see this and I certainly don't poverty my kids to see your saggy breasts.\"
And on it goes... Mum either has to shout back, meet her instruction with the tirade, or get up and leave.
Ho Hum.
An awful aggregation not in their letter, ain't it? Wonder how old that child is, in his letter... we better get that clarified!
Of course, that's what we conceive would happen... what we suspect. We still don't undergo for sure, as no one module respond the question....
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